Image use case status, Eric Slézak - observation data -> image available for a treatment (orientation on the Sky, distortion, ...) - sampling, ... - a part of the process is done manually, must be resolved before workflow in production phase - workflow quality depends on upstream quality - noise correlation - do not consider that the instrumental characteristics are not variable - first trimester : workflow finished for the China Interop meeting - Terapix tools (p.f. estimation, deconvolution, ...) - correct propagation of uncertainties - noise correlation Philippe : it is a problem of Data Model, not taken into account by the DM - visualisation tools Eric would like that the LSIIT tools available on line (especially Mathieu Petremand work) - new instruments : radio = image producer - workflow available for the China interop meeting - better quality of the workflow processing : backward, etc. - see the steps, the loops, ... -> classification of the sources - visualisation tools very important (date cubes, ...) - cf. slides
Spectrum Use Case, Philippe Prugniel - many things are not taken into account by IVOA : for example the noise - simple bricks to use quickly - cf. last meeting in Paris of a group of spectrum producers and users - common bricks in image and spectrum domains - many people are ready to develop tools and services - interconnection spectrum/tools -> near from the workflow aspects - implementation to make science : it is possible to use simple workflows which are not necessary using VO tools - so, basic bricks to define : sampling, cross corelation, ... Eric : example of which could be pertinent to transmit between image and spectrum -> image of a galaxy with a star over many programs are available but it would be nice to show workflows involving them - cf. slides
Research of objects in archives use case, Jérôme Berthier - work in progress : DENIS (index of color, astrometry), DFBS (spectrum) - ongoing work : ESO-R, POSS - DENIS represents 880740 images for ~90 days processing - workflow : (input/output) object list, aim -> create boxes with the correlators to use them in the workflows - error management, process duration - interactions, master/slave relation, input/output - langage and workflow bricks - cf. slides
New Use cases in other domains
Research of objects in archives use case, Franck Le Petit - connecting software codes together is not easy : output data format -> data model problem, UCD - quantity definition not the same for the different codes - problems due to binary format : results are written is a big binary file (possible problem like little/big endian) -> a solution could be to read the binary on the server where it has been created but it is often stored on an another server, put a header in the file to describe the format, ... - conclusion : code and theoretical databases coupling, asynchronous computing, change of code to study physical results, observation comparison - cf. slides
... proposed by Loic Lechevallier - stop point important during the execution - full description will be available soon
Overview of different languages :
cf. André's presentation
Short resume of the final discussion :
Meeting in April to prepare the May China Interop
Use cases to explain in the frame of the IVOA Theory IG - Image workflow - link with patterns - YAWL patterns ? - ESO Reflex to explore (meeting in March with R. Hook)
IVOA Theory : - research results : it is important to store the history, it must be possible for a referee to controle the workflow described in an article -> so it must be easy to replay a workflow (user friendly tool, portable workflow defintion, etc. )
IVOA Application WG - tools to show
IVOA Data Model WG : interfacing with this group
common bricks between the different use caes : probably not for the next Interop - but could be discussed (cf. SNAP) on the OV Theory mailing list - example : resampling and coordinate extraction, not the same algorithm but common semantic
definition of a desirable list of bricks needed in the future (including one concerning the noise)
lot of algorithms could be presented at IVOA (in image domain for example)